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Daily Kos: Chomsky Executes a Full Godwin; Wingnuts Flip

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A distillation of every rabid, ignorant, bull-goose crazy talking point from the right, all triggered by Noam Chomsky's comparison of the US to the Weimar Republic and the teabaggers to the then-nascent Nazi Party. Heads on the tighty-righty blogs do explode, Fun for the whole family!

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{"commentId":10144306,"authorDomain":"maxblack"}

Let me put together a few highlights from the yowlers:

Hey Noam, the Nazi’s were left wing!!! What’s this brain dead little commie referring to? [...] Calling George W. Bush/ so called Right Wingers Nazis is getting pretty old. [...] NAZI’s WERE A SOCIALIST PARTY!!!! [...] Which political party is funded by a Nazi Collaborator named Soros? Which party is the party whose programs most closely resemble National Socialism? Which party embraces the worlds socialist murderers, Mao, Stalin, Che, Castro, Chavez, Pol Pot, Khomeni, who have murdered nigh onto 200 million people in the last century? [...] If this country ever decides to rise up and take back power, you will be known and noted, and action shall be taken. [...] Who’s party has tuned the letter "O" into an icon by cramming it down our throats? It has literally replaced the presidential seal.

Wheeee! Down the rabbit hole! Do they just strap these guys down and give them electroshock, or do they implant the electrodes so they can zap at any time, any place?

The Kossack who posted this diary is a long-time historian and perfectly placed to discredit and flatten every talking point he's cribbed from the right wing nut farms.

Posted for some fun on a Saturday evening. Have at it, folks.

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  • 8 votes
Reply#1 - Sun Oct 18, 2009 12:03 AM EDT
{"commentId":10144952,"authorDomain":"libertarianblue"}

Khomeni was never a socialist, he was a theocrat who despised socialists.

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Reply#2 - Sun Oct 18, 2009 1:45 AM EDT
{"commentId":10145120,"authorDomain":"ninbyo"}

I caught that too. Most of those listed are communists anyway. Something a lot of people don't seem to understand is Socialism isn't the same as Communism. The difference is one, socialism, can be a fully functioning democracy. Whereas, Communism is a dictatorship. It's the dictatorship part that is the problem, not the economic part.

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#2.1 - Sun Oct 18, 2009 2:25 AM EDT
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{"commentId":10144978,"authorDomain":"dsnook2003"}

I would be laughing hysterically if it weren't so disturbing.

It seems as though a fairly large contingent of the right wing in this country has suffered a psychotic snap and cleaved off from reality, as so painfully evinced by the sheer incoherent raving in some of those comments.

What's that new online game... something about "Civil War 2011"?

They're withdrawing into their own little self-serving fantasy land at this point.

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Reply#3 - Sun Oct 18, 2009 1:51 AM EDT
{"commentId":10145919,"authorDomain":"acidreflux"}

And the problem is that psychotics sometimes turn violent. When they keep losing, I look for a minority of them to do just that. Something like the Egyptian Brothers did when they couldn't successfully impose their wingnuttery.

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#3.1 - Sun Oct 18, 2009 7:40 AM EDT
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{"commentId":10145527,"authorDomain":"wallemalemon"}
''It seems as though a fairly large contingent of the right wing in this country has suffered a psychotic snap and cleaved off from reality, as so painfully evinced by the sheer incoherent raving in some of those comments''

The Republic of Stupidity

....and the 'seeder' has some sort of immunity?? Oh, yeah..I'd be 'laughing hystericaly' too... Here's some more 'ignorance' from Chomsky.....

CHOMSKY ON MARKETS;

''So where's the market society? Well, it's there, it's at the marketing end. Even there, marketing is carried out in a way intended purposefully to undermine markets. In fact, we all kind of know it, but we parrot the words without recognizing it.
So you've seen television ads. Suppose there's a television ad for a drug, or a car, or something. In a market society, what you would have is a description of the properties of the commodity because then you get what are called informed consumers making rational choices.' But that's not what you get. What you get is forms of delusion because the business wants to create uninformed consumers, who make irrational choices. That is, they want to undermine markets. Which is very much like the political system. You want an electorate, which is uninformed and makes irrational choices under modern democracy, so the whole kind of ideology is so remote from reality that it's almost impossible to discuss.
And this is not something like Quantum physics. This is something right in front of everyone's eyes. It takes tremendous amounts of indoctrination to be able to produce journalists and commentators and academics, and others, who can talk about it as a Free Market society because it's right in front of your eyes that it's nothing of the sort. So that really takes effective indoctrination.
And it's not that people are lying. It's worse than that. It's internalized. You really believe the falsehoods you're producing. Like a well-run totalitarian society, or a well-run religious faith where people don't lie when they say there are miracles. They believe it. And people aren't lying when they say it's a market society. It's just sort of driven into them that you don't question it even though the counter-evidence is right in your face.''
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Reply#4 - Sun Oct 18, 2009 4:56 AM EDT
{"commentId":10145582,"authorDomain":"wallemalemon"}

I'll stand with ANYONE who has the courage to read Chomsky.... The man is spot on, right on the money informed....and he doesn't mind sharing.....

When I first approached this seed, I skipped the read on the blog.....I misunderstood what you quoted, Max...thinking you were advocating what turned out to be just an example from the many ignorant comments regarding Chomsky's remarks...thinking them to be your own... you weren't clear enough, or I really needed to read before judging things, so, please take note...you, along with 'the republic of stupidity', that my heart is with you as it turns out...

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Reply#5 - Sun Oct 18, 2009 5:28 AM EDT
{"commentId":10147226,"authorDomain":"maxblack"}

No problem, sorry if I wasn't clear in the seed.

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#5.1 - Sun Oct 18, 2009 11:01 AM EDT
{"commentId":10156648,"authorDomain":"wallemalemon"}

No, Max..you did fine..it was 4:30 in the morning....(1st cup of coffee) :) ...had to say somethin, cause I couldn't amend my own confusing comment, SssEEEEh ?

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    #5.2 - Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:11 AM EDT
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    {"commentId":10145746,"authorDomain":"blaze1024"}

    Is the radical right wing still trying to lay claim that Hitler was a socialist.

    Hitler and the Nazi party were as much socialists as china is a democracy. After all China does call itself the democratic republic of china or as of lately the the democratic peoples republic of china.

    Amazing how contards like to latch onto a label. Then they like to try and claim that that same label that someone applies to themselves validates that counties political system.

    Sure the Nazis deceptively labeled themselves "The Socialist Workers Party" but in practice they were anything but socialists. Only an utter frigging moron would believe that the Nazi party was a socialists in practice.

    Of course we are talking about illiterate contard logic here and considering the vast majority of them don't even know the difference between socialism, fascism or an oligarchy its kind of hard to take them seriously in anything the say

    It's a well established and peer reviewed fact that the Nazi party adamantly opposed and economic as well as political liberalism. So trying to rewrite history and re-labeled them as liberals or socialists is simply asinine.

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    Reply#6 - Sun Oct 18, 2009 6:40 AM EDT
    {"commentId":10145807,"authorDomain":"wmj1173"}

    I heard a rumor that Glenn Beck is busy writing a novel with the tentative title "My Struggle".

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    Reply#7 - Sun Oct 18, 2009 7:05 AM EDT
    {"commentId":10155806,"authorDomain":"molliebea"}

    #7: ..."I heard a rumor that Glenn Beck is busy writing a novel with the tentative title "My Struggle"..."

    Is the topic his addiction (s)?

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    #7.1 - Mon Oct 19, 2009 1:46 AM EDT
    {"commentId":10156619,"authorDomain":"wallemalemon"}

    I smell a Bill Maher type sense of humor..... doesn't 'my struggle' translate into German as 'Mein'...something ???

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    #7.2 - Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:04 AM EDT
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    {"commentId":10152332,"authorDomain":"blackcat8838"}

    Been reading Chomsky for years. The wing-nuts wouldn't have the intellect to know what it meant without flashcards and coaching. Nice comments on the Kos thread. Quit reading Kos two months before the election. A little too hysterical for me.

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    Reply#8 - Sun Oct 18, 2009 7:24 PM EDT
    {"commentId":10152648,"authorDomain":"blayde"}

    I like Chomsky but at times he seems a bit too intellectual for me. He is almost always right, his arguments crush conservative stupidity but he needs to remember that he is only an adviser, not the president.

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    Reply#9 - Sun Oct 18, 2009 7:54 PM EDT
    {"commentId":10152692,"authorDomain":"blayde"}

    As much as I love Chomsky, he couldn't get two parcels of piss passed if he were president.

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    Reply#10 - Sun Oct 18, 2009 7:58 PM EDT
    {"commentId":10156777,"authorDomain":"wallemalemon"}

    blayde;

    As much as I love Chomsky, he couldn't get two parcels of piss passed if he were president

    aww, come ohnn, mon.....Chomsky advocating two parcels of piss is hardly....are we racing to the bottom or sumpin' here ??

    but at times he seems a bit too intellectual for me.

    ...yeah...it kinna paints an imaginary target on those who are made to admit the truth to themselves, realizing the 'enemy' is us...sometimes it takes a ton of courage to remain principled.... you summed up how Chomsky effects many...they come away so disturbed, because the implications translate into such a gravity that it is hard to continue reading him. Still, I know in my heart that the truth will not go away, and the day of reckoning will require our personal attendance to the facts for our personal survival..... until then, it's all just going to be 'hook or crook' business as usual news cycles from Lala land...

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      #10.1 - Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:37 AM EDT
      {"commentId":10165126,"authorDomain":"blayde"}

      Don't get me me wrong lovetrust, I am a big fan of Chomsky but like Nader, he isn't a guy that would make a functional President, unlike Nader, he wouldn't try either. Do you think Obama has read Chomsky? I do and that is why I like Obama, if someone posits a critical argument worth consideration he will evaluate it along with his group of intellectuals. I guess what I meant when I said that Chomsky was a little too intellectual, what I was really saying is that sometimes his truth is at a level that renders it politically impractical. Even if it were right a draconian solution will not prevail, and nothing will be changed in the end.

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      #10.2 - Mon Oct 19, 2009 1:43 PM EDT
      {"commentId":10180974,"authorDomain":"wallemalemon"}

      blayde, I like you, so don't get me wrong...you said

      I guess what I meant when I said that Chomsky was a little too intellectual, what I was really saying is that sometimes his truth is at a level that renders it politically impractical. Even if it were right a draconian solution will not prevail, and nothing will be changed in the end.

      politics is nothing but spin... the truth, however is beyond politics. Will Rogers;

      If you ever injected truth into politics you have no politics

      truth is at a level that renders it politically impractical ?? ...then, how can we presume to be free....?? Even if it were right a draconian solution will not prevail, and nothing will be changed in the end ?? Is that our choices?? Everyone is fearful of what is, in effect the only correct choice... I was one of them....once...

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      #10.3 - Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:00 AM EDT
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